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Aug 31, 2020 · Also Xeno Goku has immeasurable speed. He also is pretty haxxed: Dimensional Domain (Reduces opponents stamina to 1. Works on even androids who have infinite stamina and it's a passive hax ... The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. Xeno Goku is a multiversal++ character with borderline immeasurable speed, considering the fact that he can cross whole timelines in instants. He has the Keysword, which can seal higher dimensional characters by stripping them of their power, and can call a multiversal+ reality warper at his service...Super Shenron says hi .Equalized speed gives Misogi a huge advantage, which helps him to hax Goku out of existence. All Fiction gg. 2 years ago. #26 kaoscrystals. @varricpatermann: iirc erasing someone at all planes of ...Anos Voldigoad is the main character in the series Misfit of Demon King Academy. With his abilities as the Demon King of Tyranny, he would not even need a fraction of his power to defeat Ultra ...The xenoverse games happen in the heroes timeline. Somewhere. In XV2, Mira is considered as powerful as Beerus The Destroyer when he merges with Towa. Super Saiyan Blue Goku is powerful enough to be a major help, and can deal a killing blow to Mira. This means SSB Goku is near the level of Beerus, and FPSS Broly.Anos Voldigoad is the main character in the series Misfit of Demon King Academy. With his abilities as the Demon King of Tyranny, he would not even need a fraction of his power to defeat Ultra ...Zerosama12 • 3 yr. ago. Goku in that game fought Prometeus, who was so strong, that viewed all of shonen jump as fiction. He was aware that One Piece, Naruto, DB and etc were fictions which I guess is plot manipulation or narrative ascention. And Goku was capable of beating him with a genkidama.Luffy still doesn't know the extent of Goku's power. Once again, for highball's sake, let's say Luffy knows how strong Goku is in Super Saiyan (1, not 2 or 3 or any god form). Goku would still speedblitz him in base before he can imagine, that's how fast DB characters are. In DB, your hax are also negated if you are weaker than your opponent ... Apr 12, 2021. #1. Can anyone send me the scans to the following feats from Xeno Goku ? I dont find them anywhere. We should add the scans to the profile .. " Life-Force Absorption (Using "Draw", he can damage opponents by sucking out their life energy, which he can then use to heal himself)"I heard xeno goku scales to characters with infinite multiversal feats. That's way above jin moris paygrade from what I've seen, Jin scales above his cosmology that's pretty much a low multiverse ...why xeno goku isn't 2A or high 2A and doesn't has infinity speed? demigra can destroy the DBH multiverse (infinite timeline) and real world. xeno goku moved...May 14, 2020 · Hakai ignores conventional durability, as well as Goku, so he can also destroy your atoms. Yes, Trunks can reduce you and your atoms. Goku has Immeasurable Speed, Hades hasn't peformed a feat ... Jun 7, 2020 · @supersonictl: Xeno Goku or the Time Patrollers being able to travel through and across time through sheer speed is honestly an Immeasurable speed feat. OT: Goku stomps 2 years ago Fierce Battle for Space and Time Super Saiyan Goku (Xeno) | Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle Wiki | Fandom. in: UR, PHY, Super PHY, and 6 more. Also Xeno Goku has immeasurable speed. He also is pretty haxxed: Dimensional Domain (Reduces opponents stamina to 1. Works on even androids who have infinite stamina and it's a passive hax ...Team 1: 5. Team 2: 4. The majority win Goes to Team 1 in r2. Xeno Goku vs Paper Mario. Paper Mario has better arsenal and strength than Xeno Goku. But Xeno Goku has better Durability, speed, and ...Xeno Goku will be scaled to 7 layers into high outerversal. Note: Trascending time is different form trascending time conceptually which is a outerversal feat. Trascending time is 5D and trascending the concept of time is outerversal. MagnificentSasquatch • 4 mo. ago. You don't seem to understand. Both can go full-out. Xeno Goku one shots Gilgamesh. Xeno Goku already have concrete feats than Gilgamesh, Xeno Goku in his base form already defeated someone, who could destroy an entire infinite universes. Since both are roughly the same dimensional tier level you have to look at what abilities they have. He has shown multiple feats of immeasurable speed. His skill turn null literally means that he can destroy the world that makes up the universe an infinite number of times (EOS). Rimuru does not only scale higher in attack, but speed too, and even if he isn’t stronger (which is false) he still has thousands more hax than Xeno Goku, in which ... 8 months ago. #17 Edited By ArgomkII. @estrelladeleon: Xeno Goku is infinite multiversal, but different from yan sen. Infinite timelines with a multiverse inside each timeline and each Universe ...The xenoverse games happen in the heroes timeline. Somewhere. In XV2, Mira is considered as powerful as Beerus The Destroyer when he merges with Towa. Super Saiyan Blue Goku is powerful enough to be a major help, and can deal a killing blow to Mira. This means SSB Goku is near the level of Beerus, and FPSS Broly.He has shown multiple feats of immeasurable speed. His skill turn null literally means that he can destroy the world that makes up the universe an infinite number of times (EOS). Rimuru does not only scale higher in attack, but speed too, and even if he isn’t stronger (which is false) he still has thousands more hax than Xeno Goku, in which ... Superman level telepathy isnt strong when xeno goku is casually fighting multiversal threats in base. Aquamans telepathy isnt on MMH level? And none of the scans you have shown are aquamans. You showed me a scan of MMH saying its a little bit difficult to use his skills on their minds. Xeno goku has infinite speed. Able to travel through time.Jun 7, 2020 · @supersonictl: Xeno Goku or the Time Patrollers being able to travel through and across time through sheer speed is honestly an Immeasurable speed feat. OT: Goku stomps 2 years ago Another power scaling feat is the supreme Kai of time can casually merge timelines, destroy timelines and universes, she’s basically Zeno to Zeno and she’s considered like really trash, 95% of dragon ball heroes villains and heroes can one shot all of super including Zeno and xeno goku can take them all out in base unless it’s a heavy ... The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification.He has shown multiple feats of immeasurable speed. His skill turn null literally means that he can destroy the world that makes up the universe an infinite number of times (EOS). Rimuru does not only scale higher in attack, but speed too, and even if he isn’t stronger (which is false) he still has thousands more hax than Xeno Goku, in which ... Jul 22, 2019 · Super Saiyan Xeno Goku defeated both Demigra as well as Chamel. And SSJ3 Xeno Goku 1-shot Gravy (This guy) who was equal with Demigra. And then SSJ4 Xeno Goku fought fairly evenly with Broly Dark who's able to 1-shot Demon God Towa, of which Towa's able to easily toss aside Super Saiyan Xeno Goku's Kamehameha. Even if you wanna scale him to multiversal, that’s child’s play in DBH. If Sonic is scaled to the genesis wave (which he should) he gets higher scaling than Goku. The wave feat is way more impressive than alot of people think consider how it affected Two infinite multiverses which were Sonic and Megaman's verses. May 27, 2016 · 3. Zeno has the ability to obliterate all of the universes but apart from that, battle power & strength, he is nothing. Destructive feat scaling is fallacious and leads to people claiming "multiverse" durability or destructive power to the main heroes when that has never been implied at all. All-Out Final Battle Super Saiyan God SS Goku & Super Saiyan God SS Vegeta; Infinite Sanctuary Fusion Zamasu; Resilient Will to Protect the Future Trunks (Teen) (Future)@supersonictl: Xeno Goku or the Time Patrollers being able to travel through and across time through sheer speed is honestly an Immeasurable speed feat. OT: Goku stomps 2 years agoXeno Goku also has Super Saiyan 3 and Super Saiyan 4 to stack ontop of his Super Saiyan form and has grown stronger over time in the plot of DBH, to my knowledge. CC Goku is even stronger than Xeno Goku, having an edge over even SS4 Xeno Goku when in Super Saiyan Blue and, due to being based on Goku in DBS, has access to Kaio-Ken X20 Blue.See full list on dragonball.fandom.com Superior hax, better feats for AP, and she should have the speed to handle Goku. Sailor moon negs, it's funny how misogynistic some powerscalers are, once saw a thread of people saying xeno goku who is weaker than CC goku who was struggling under planetary gravity would rape featherine.We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us.Here are a few examples of Goku's reaction abilities: This is relatively solid evidence of Goku's ability to dodge and reflect bullets. notice in the second one that Goku is actually looking at ...The DB Heroes Universe is comprised of infinite histories, Universes, and Realties. Now, a Universe with infinite possibilities is 10D. Goku when transforming was threating to destroy all of those, and also beat Demigra in base who could destroy all of those. He's complex multiversal, nothing more, nothing less, and he still loses to anti-spiral. Super Saiyan Xeno Goku defeated both Demigra as well as Chamel. And SSJ3 Xeno Goku 1-shot Gravy who was equal with Demigra. And then SSJ4 Xeno Goku fought fairly evenly with Broly Dark who's able to 1-shot Demon God Towa, of which Towa's able to easily toss aside Super Saiyan Xeno Goku's Kamehameha. So in terms of the scaling above, we have:lacks the infinite speed feats cosmology wise Xeno Goku can destroy the DBH cosmology, which his a multiverse with infinite possibilities Meanwhile for Anos militia world is a multiverse in it's own right (containing multiple infinite realms, and all possibilities) 7th Elenesia is bigger than militia world and there are an infinite number of ...The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification.Apr 12, 2021. #1. Can anyone send me the scans to the following feats from Xeno Goku ? I dont find them anywhere. We should add the scans to the profile .. " Life-Force Absorption (Using "Draw", he can damage opponents by sucking out their life energy, which he can then use to heal himself)"Sep 2, 2019 · Zamasu_Chan. Yeah true, it's pretty common to have variable flying speeds though. Like Goku being faster than Ginyu despite being weaker than Ginyu, Goku and Vegeta being able to fly away from Broly despite being ants compared to him, etc. Dragon Ball should really cut down on the multipliers and stick to base and ssj. the first is wrong,because calling something the real world is not enough,practically,there is series that call the real world,to the world that is not another world. the second is only a dimensional trascendence,unless you are scp verse. and the third one is,ok,but the problem with this,is that is not probe the fact that for being outerversal ... He has shown multiple feats of immeasurable speed. His skill turn null literally means that he can destroy the world that makes up the universe an infinite number of times (EOS). Rimuru does not only scale higher in attack, but speed too, and even if he isn’t stronger (which is false) he still has thousands more hax than Xeno Goku, in which ... Anos Voldigoad is the main character in the series Misfit of Demon King Academy. With his abilities as the Demon King of Tyranny, he would not even need a fraction of his power to defeat Ultra ...Being able to move on an temporal axis despite your physical body existing on a 3-dimensional plane. Goku and Vegeta survived outside the flow of time- but havi. Now that we have discussed the understand of Being/Range of Motion/Destructive Capacity. Let us dive deeper into the feats and understand of Dragon Ball lore.Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed to defeat Broly. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. Tier: 2-C | 2-C Key: Base Form and Super Saiyan | Super Saiyan Blue Name: Gogeta Origin: Dragon Ball Age: Up to 30 minutes at most Gender: Male ...lacks the infinite speed feats cosmology wise Xeno Goku can destroy the DBH cosmology, which his a multiverse with infinite possibilities Meanwhile for Anos militia world is a multiverse in it's own right (containing multiple infinite realms, and all possibilities) 7th Elenesia is bigger than militia world and there are an infinite number of ...Jul 22, 2019 · Super Saiyan Xeno Goku defeated both Demigra as well as Chamel. And SSJ3 Xeno Goku 1-shot Gravy (This guy) who was equal with Demigra. And then SSJ4 Xeno Goku fought fairly evenly with Broly Dark who's able to 1-shot Demon God Towa, of which Towa's able to easily toss aside Super Saiyan Xeno Goku's Kamehameha. Sep 6, 2021 · goku can use manga and anime feats. Dante can use game and lore feats. ... Xeno Goku even demonstrated a sealing technique other than it), Higher-Dimensional Existence or Beyond-Dimensional ... Mar 9, 2021 · Because if it is, then no. Also, Jump Force is 2-C currently. @SSJRyu1 He made the argument that Jump Force Goku is High 1-A, because of similar feats. DBS Goku stand at Low Multiversal+ with MFTL+ speed (baseline 67 sextillion faster than light). With highball, you can put him at at some very little degree of Immeasurable or Infinite but it's nothing. Xeno Goku is at High Complex Multiverse+ with Immeasurable speed. the first is wrong,because calling something the real world is not enough,practically,there is series that call the real world,to the world that is not another world. the second is only a dimensional trascendence,unless you are scp verse. and the third one is,ok,but the problem with this,is that is not probe the fact that for being outerversal ...Because Goetia scales above 160 million degrees Celsius. Easy, Xeno Trunks by possessing the use of God Ki due to his SSG transformation. It has God Ki, which grants resistance to demonic abilities and dark ki users have resistance to their own Ki. ( dark ki can create effects similar to Blutz waves ).See full list on dragonball.fandom.com he scales above xeno goku who was high outer due to the real world transcending feat, the same xeno goku that beat demigra in base form with ease, a character who wasnt only about to destroy the infinite timelines and infinite multiverses within dragon ball, but the real world as well. he also threatened ALL of time simply by powering up into super saiyan 4, the same one that needs a parallel ...Son Goku (Xeno) Son Goku (Super Dragon Ball Heroes) ... Whis' Speed Feat; User blog:Alexcar3000/Composite Dragon Ball Character (Canon/Non-Canon)1:Its true though. 2:Its true. 3:Yes he does he literally is the Goku from the story mode. 4:Yes they do, they reflect what happens in the plot and power escalatio isn't as drastic as it was in the original missions. Your entire argument in a nutshell is just ad hominem and strawman ontop of appeal to emotion.Goku is outerversal. This topic is locked from further discussion. Born a pure-blooded Saiyan on Planet Vegeta, Son Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball franchise, and is one of the ...@supersonictl: Xeno Goku or the Time Patrollers being able to travel through and across time through sheer speed is honestly an Immeasurable speed feat. OT: Goku stomps 2 years agoMar 18, 2022 · 1 light year = 9.7 trillion kilometers which in twenty minutes =8 083 333 333 km/s. now multiply 8 083 333 333 with 264250 and you get the distance that gas would cover in 20 minutes. so Gas speed ... Broly eventually confronts Xeno Goku, Xeno Vegeta, Goku, and Vegeta just as they were about to fight Dark Fu. However, before he could get a chance to fight them, Cumber ended up fighting him as a distraction at the command of Hearts. The fight eventually culminated in Broly kicking the ancient Saiyan into the Universe Tree, as well as him ...Goku is outerversal. This topic is locked from further discussion. Born a pure-blooded Saiyan on Planet Vegeta, Son Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball franchise, and is one of the ...Shrekisomnipotent22 • 9 mo. ago. It's not that I'm lowballing Goku, it's just that Prime is that fucking broken. Xeno Goku is Multiversal+ and possibly immeasurable while Superboy Prime is outerversal with irrelevant speed. Funnily enough post crisis/Rebirth superman vs Xeno Goku is actually a close fight.goku can use manga and anime feats. Dante can use game and lore feats. ... Xeno Goku even demonstrated a sealing technique other than it), Higher-Dimensional Existence or Beyond-Dimensional ...Something else about Goku's speed. He doesn't travel at the speed of light (or beyond). As a Super Saiyan 2, he fails to save Gohan, Piccolo, and the others before Buu's Death Ball blows up the planet. Someone flying at light speed could have saved them in addition to Dende and Hercule. Goku is the strongest mortal warrior in Universe 7 and one of the most powerful characters in the franchise, able to compete against seemingly any opponent. A prodigy of combat, he learned an extensive amount of combat while a young child and would continue to near-effortlessly learn practically any new technique he encountered. His natural talent for combat along with his unwavering drive ...The real cal howard said: Not really. Whis's speed calc isn't from crossing the universe but from going to Beerus's place to earth. It doesn't change at all, iirc (though I could be wrong). iirc, Earth and Beerus' Nebula are in different sides of the universe so an increased universe size would apply to it.Goku is the strongest mortal warrior in Universe 7 and one of the most powerful characters in the franchise, able to compete against seemingly any opponent. A prodigy of combat, he learned an extensive amount of combat while a young child and would continue to near-effortlessly learn practically any new technique he encountered. His natural talent for combat along with his unwavering drive ... Fierce Battle for Space and Time Super Saiyan Goku (Xeno) | Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle Wiki | Fandom. in: UR, PHY, Super PHY, and 6 more. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. Apr 16, 2019 · Being able to move on an temporal axis despite your physical body existing on a 3-dimensional plane. Goku and Vegeta survived outside the flow of time- but havi. Now that we have discussed the understand of Being/Range of Motion/Destructive Capacity. Let us dive deeper into the feats and understand of Dragon Ball lore. Sep 6, 2021 · goku can use manga and anime feats. Dante can use game and lore feats. ... Xeno Goku even demonstrated a sealing technique other than it), Higher-Dimensional Existence or Beyond-Dimensional ... Ezbreezey_ • 7 mo. ago. Idk where that guy got 12d from but from what I know about heroes cosmology, xeno Goku can be scaled to 6D or 7D since for some reason the arcade which sees them as fiction is seen as a transcendent plane compared to the 5D verse. And for some reason beats world is also transcendent to the arcade which makes it a 7th ... Canon Goku would've been too much for Sailor Moon, much less Xeno Goku. She's not fast enough in terms of combat speed, the only thing she's faster in is her travel speed, and even that's debatable. She has no answer to being completely erased with Hakai, even if she can come back to life within her own setting Hakai is more effective than the ...Zerosama12 • 3 yr. ago. Goku in that game fought Prometeus, who was so strong, that viewed all of shonen jump as fiction. He was aware that One Piece, Naruto, DB and etc were fictions which I guess is plot manipulation or narrative ascention. And Goku was capable of beating him with a genkidama.He has shown multiple feats of immeasurable speed. His skill turn null literally means that he can destroy the world that makes up the universe an infinite number of times (EOS). Rimuru does not only scale higher in attack, but speed too, and even if he isn’t stronger (which is false) he still has thousands more hax than Xeno Goku, in which ...

Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed to defeat Broly. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. Tier: 2-C | 2-C Key: Base Form and Super Saiyan | Super Saiyan Blue Name: Gogeta Origin: Dragon Ball Age: Up to 30 minutes at most Gender: Male ... . Copy

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Super Saiyan Full Power. Potential Unleashed. Goku's Change. Goku's True Ultra Instinct (真身勝手の極意 Shin Migatte no Goku'i, lit. "The True Secret of the Self-centered") [2] is an emotionally-driven form of Ultra Instinct as well as an enhanced version of Ultra Instinct Sign unique to Goku. [3] [4] [5]Fierce Battle for Space and Time Super Saiyan Goku (Xeno) | Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle Wiki | Fandom. in: UR, PHY, Super PHY, and 6 more. Canon Goku would've been too much for Sailor Moon, much less Xeno Goku. She's not fast enough in terms of combat speed, the only thing she's faster in is her travel speed, and even that's debatable. She has no answer to being completely erased with Hakai, even if she can come back to life within her own setting Hakai is more effective than the ...Nov 21, 2018 · why xeno goku isn't 2A or high 2A and doesn't has infinity speed? demigra can destroy the DBH multiverse (infinite timeline) and real world. xeno goku moved... Velocity = Distance / Time. Velocity = 5.67643828354848e+29 meters / 10^-36. Velocity = 5.6764383e+65 m/s. To now get his speed in comparison to the speed of light, we simply divide his speed in m/s, by light's speed in m/s. Convert that to the speed of light by dividing his speed over the speed of light in m/s.DBS Goku stand at Low Multiversal+ with MFTL+ speed (baseline 67 sextillion faster than light). With highball, you can put him at at some very little degree of Immeasurable or Infinite but it's nothing. Xeno Goku is at High Complex Multiverse+ with Immeasurable speed. Son Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head, starting his great adventures from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z. After defeating Kid Buu, Goku works as a radish farmer ...The Q&A blog aside, let's explore some higher speed feats in Super Dragon Ball Heroes. Heroes Vegito kept up with a barrage of infinite attacks from Fu. Easy infinite speed feat. During the fight between Agios and UI Sign Capsule Corp Goku, Agios used passive precognition to dodge and foresee all of Goku's attacks.Canon Goku would've been too much for Sailor Moon, much less Xeno Goku. She's not fast enough in terms of combat speed, the only thing she's faster in is her travel speed, and even that's debatable. She has no answer to being completely erased with Hakai, even if she can come back to life within her own setting Hakai is more effective than the ...Apr 12, 2021. #1. Can anyone send me the scans to the following feats from Xeno Goku ? I dont find them anywhere. We should add the scans to the profile .. " Life-Force Absorption (Using "Draw", he can damage opponents by sucking out their life energy, which he can then use to heal himself)"Son Goku (Xeno) Son Goku (Super Dragon Ball Heroes) ... Whis' Speed Feat; User blog:Alexcar3000/Composite Dragon Ball Character (Canon/Non-Canon)Mar 8, 2018 · 1:Its true though. 2:Its true. 3:Yes he does he literally is the Goku from the story mode. 4:Yes they do, they reflect what happens in the plot and power escalatio isn't as drastic as it was in the original missions. Your entire argument in a nutshell is just ad hominem and strawman ontop of appeal to emotion. Xeno Goku wins as he has better feats (beat Demigra in base form who is at least mr mxy level), more clear scaling (scales above all the Demon Gods except Mechikabura while Svs is maybe above mxy) and more hax than Svs (hakai, keysword, time travel). Xeno Goku will win against Strange Visitor Superman. Xeno Goku beat Demigra who will destroy ... Son Goku (DB Xenoverse) VS Darkseid (DC Comics) . Starting Distance: 10m. Fight Location: Tournament of Power Arena. Both in-character. Equalized speed. 2-A Darkseid and Goku starts in Base form with access to your transformations. Goku will have access to Keysword. Goku: 2 ( @God900, @sanicspood) Darkseid:Sep 2, 2019 · Zamasu_Chan. Yeah true, it's pretty common to have variable flying speeds though. Like Goku being faster than Ginyu despite being weaker than Ginyu, Goku and Vegeta being able to fly away from Broly despite being ants compared to him, etc. Dragon Ball should really cut down on the multipliers and stick to base and ssj. Not too sure about Anti-Spiral and his “11-D” so for now I’m going Xeno Goku by feats and hax. 2 years ago. deactivated-60a965c6d6754. Follow 791. Forum Posts. 0. Wiki Points. 0 ...Because Goetia scales above 160 million degrees Celsius. Easy, Xeno Trunks by possessing the use of God Ki due to his SSG transformation. It has God Ki, which grants resistance to demonic abilities and dark ki users have resistance to their own Ki. ( dark ki can create effects similar to Blutz waves ).1:Its true though. 2:Its true. 3:Yes he does he literally is the Goku from the story mode. 4:Yes they do, they reflect what happens in the plot and power escalatio isn't as drastic as it was in the original missions. Your entire argument in a nutshell is just ad hominem and strawman ontop of appeal to emotion..

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